Did Sydney plagiarise the Gold Coast? Edit

Wet 'n' Wild Sydney is suspiciously similar to the Gold Coast, but at least it saves Sydneysiders from having to travel just under 1,000 km for 12 hours. It's located in the west which is also very convenient. MasterMind5991 (talk) 07:58, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

A theme park was needed in Western Sydney after Wonderland shut down in 2004. Speaking of which, it could be brought back sometime in the next decade. But it's money well spent, however, Jamberoo have ramped up its advertisements ever since W 'n' Wild opened in December last year. MasterMind5991 (talk) 08:04, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

I loved Wonderland. I went there once when I was a kid. By the way, Grant Bowler will host "The Amazing Race Australia" this year. Thankfully, not Shura Taft, who many people believe destroyed The Mole last year. MasterMind5991 (talk) 08:11, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

I've been to Jamberoo twice, but not since 2009. It is a wonderful theme park but it's such a shame that it has to be very far from where I live :( MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:53, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Emoticons, for the most part, don't work on Wikipedia. Anyway, you will have noticed that both Ten and One are televising the Winter Olympics simultaneously. Which channel do you normally watch for the coverage? MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:14, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

You're not interested in the Winter Olympics? Perhaps you prefer the Summer Games. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:32, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Canada are very good at that sport. Speaking of which, I think it was on One earlier tonight. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:34, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

I actually like those style of trains. I always go on the upper floor and try to sit as close to the window as possible to enjoy the sights during very long train trips. I love the brand new Waratah trains (if you have ever been on them, it's a train of eight continuous carriages, not four like the Millennium trains). MasterMind5991 (talk) 12:15, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

The state of transport in Sydney Edit

There is a new light rail line being built in Sydney, and hopefully it will open by the end of the year.

I do remember going on the Monorail many times, but it's a shame the government had to shut it down last year. MasterMind5991 (talk) 03:54, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

I haven't been to the Powerhouse Museum in ages. I am a frequent city visitor, so all I do is walk along George Street, browsing restaurants and shops and the like. MasterMind5991 (talk) 04:40, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Ahh yes. Also make sure that you (next time) visit the Art Gallery to the east, and the State Library nearby as well.

On Martin Place, there is the Channel Seven studio where Sydney's news is done. Mark Ferguson is the weeknight presenter, he replaced Chris Bath at the start of this year after bad ratings. MasterMind5991 (talk) 04:59, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

In what event? It could have been ice hockey against Switzerland or something else. I only pay attention to the notable Australians. MasterMind5991 (talk) 05:17, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Correction in spelling: Latvia.

And finally Australia have a medal, Torah Bright winning silver in her pet event where she was defending gold medallist in the half pipe event. MasterMind5991 (talk) 05:28, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

At this rate, it's unlikely Australia will win a Gold Medal at these Winter Games. The last time this happened? 1998 Winter Olympics. The last time Australia did not win a Gold at a Summer Games were Montreal in 1976. MasterMind5991 (talk) 05:46, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

No, not really. We've had some great winter Olympians such as Torah Bright, Dale Begg-Smith and, of course, Steven Bradbury, who won Australia's first ever Winter Gold Medal at Salt Lake City in 2002.

You will not believe what happened - he was running dead last, and then on the final turn, ALL of his competitors crashed at the final corner, leaving Bradbury as the last man standing. He eventually overtook the field and went on to win. MasterMind5991 (talk) 06:21, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

He was given next to no chance of even winning. HE WAS LAST DURING THAT FINAL LAP! But his victory etched him into Olympic history forever. MasterMind5991 (talk) 06:30, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Unlikely to ever happen again. But it has happened in other forms in other sports, such as in tennis when an underdog player goes deep because of the exit of a higher ranked player. There have been examples of lowly-ranked players going very deep at Grand Slam tournaments. In fact, lots. MasterMind5991 (talk) 06:35, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Strong example.

  • Eugenie Bouchard would not have made the semi-finals had Serena Williams not lost in round four (in fact, she beat the player who beat Serena in the fourth round, Ana Ivanovic, in the quarter-finals).
  • Dominika Cibulková would not have reached the final had Victoria Azarenka not lost to Agnieszka Radwańska in the quarters. Cibulková, however, did beat Azarenka in a recent meeting at Roland Garros in 2012.
  • In the men's, Grigor Dimitrov would not have reached the quarter-finals had Juan Martín del Potro lost in round two.
  • Stanislas Wawrinka would not have won the title had Rafael Nadal been fully fit. MasterMind5991 (talk) 06:44, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't use the Opal card (yes, the spelling is actually correct), so I would have no idea. I use a concession card that is $2.50, which allows me to travel anywhere on train, bus or ferry. MasterMind5991 (talk) 06:50, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Again, I have no idea, because I am travelling different places every day, and most of the time I don't travel to the city for university. Instead, I study in the western suburbs (Campbelltown area, to be exact). MasterMind5991 (talk) 06:55, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

The Waratah trains are cool. Especially the listing of the next stations and the following ones on the line. Some trains skip stations on purpose, as they are either not part of the line (such as St Peters and Erskineville not being part of the Illawarra line), or are least served.

Have you been on a ferry yet? MasterMind5991 (talk) 07:03, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Just another ordinary day Edit

What do you mean? MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:14, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Ahhh.. Have you been reading my season previews for each of the AFL teams? I'm about halfway through my NRL previews. MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:19, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

I hope I'm wrong, but I based my predictions based mostly on last season, with a few changes:

  • Hawthorn vs Sydney in the Grand Final
  • Collingwood to finish 8th at the end of the regular season
  • Essendon to finish 5th despite the supplements scandal
  • Gold Coast to win about 10 games this year
  • GWS to finish 16th
  • St Kilda to finish last.

And yes, you guessed it - Richmond will finish in that poor old spot of 9th. MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:39, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Don't worry, you're not alone. How was Observatory Hill? MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:47, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

I have been to Observatory Hill once and it's a good view. Also been to Cockatoo Island. And just a note - Ballast National Park was where the final quiz and the reveal was held for The Mole. MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Tough. It's just a month until now and the AFL will be back! Speaking of which, there will be no discussions on Fridays, Saturdays or Sundays due to my Twitter commitments. However, I am likely to be away from home for a week, but there should be some television and internet for me to (at least) interact. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:13, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't watch the Simpsons anymore, because I watch the news on Seven. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:31, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

While you were in Sydney, there was a shocking murder that happened in Tyabb, when a father stabbed his son to death after cricket practice, only for himself to be shot dead by police. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:01, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Another sad death in Victoria. Something needs to be done to prevent not only violence, but also people committing suicide, in the state. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:07, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

There was Anita Cobby in Sydney, Daniel Morcombe on the Sunshine Coast, Britt Lapthorne in Dubronik, Croatia in 2008 and Madeleine McCann in 2007.

What are your thoughts on the Schapelle Corby case? And did you watch the telemovie? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:14, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Schapelle eventually did not do well in the ratings, scoring only one million viewers as opposed to INXS, which had almost double the audience. Still, public opinion remains divided between Australians as to whether Corby should have been released or not. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:26, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Never Tear Us Apart Edit

Where exactly did you go today? And stay tuned as we find out just exactly how Michael Hutchence died. MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:56, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Ouch. That must have hurt. By the way, the United States beat Russia in a thrilling ice hockey match last night, the Russian captain, Alex Ovechkin, is engaged to tennis player Maria Kirilenko. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:02, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

INXS were one of the most popular bands in the late 1900's, and there was also controversy surrounding the death of Hutchence. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:12, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Not paying attention to the movie at the moment, currently in the middle of writing my NRL season previews. Check out the Melbourne Storm preview if you haven't already. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:15, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

It could be the end of an era at the Storm. Billy Slater, Cameron Smith and Cooper Cronk are now past their 30th birthdays. But who knows, maybe they would like to win another premiership before they all retire. Also, do you plan to go to some Melbourne Storm games this year? MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:26, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Because I will be on Twitter most of the time doing play-by-play (mostly, only matches that are on Channel Seven and/or involving GWS Giants and the Sydney Swans, as I do not have Foxtel), perhaps a short post-match discussion would be appropriate. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:46, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

It's useless. Nothing significant. Queen's Birthday, Labour Day and Good Friday are (in my opinion) meaningless public holidays. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:52, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

If there's a relationship, then Valentine's Day will be meaningful. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:03, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

What is your view on Queen's Birthday? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:22, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

The scene has just passed about the announcement of Michael Hutchence's death on INXS telemovie. Apparently I missed the death scene due to being in the toilet. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:31, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Hutchence died by hanging himself; drugs played a big part in it. INXS were never the same after that. I'll be looking forward to downloading the torrent as soon as it becomes available. After that, I will switch to Ten for the Winter Games.

I guess that you use an Apple Mac, right? I use Windows 8! MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:40, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

A lot of INXS songs have been made world famous by a band who started out in the streets. I won't buy the DVD, I'd rather download the torrent, it's faster and free (even though it's illegal). MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:49, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

I have torrented numerous tennis, NRL and AFL matches, as well as The Mole, The Amazing Race Australia and The X Factor Australia.

By the way, I'm going to use the WWTBAM templates to ask you some questions!

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To select your answer, do the following:

If your answer is a, then use:

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If your selected answer is b, then replace 'a' in that above line with 'b'; likewise, do so for C and D. For each answer that you select, place that line IMMEDIATELY below your choice, for example:

| a = Answer #1

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The template:

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The full code unwikied: {{WWTBAM question | value = Topic: Anything | question = What answer do you select? | a = A | astyle = chosen | b = B | c = C | d = D }}

Hmm... you think Serena Williams has the most annoying grunt in tennis. Well, I think it's a tie between Azarenka and Sharapova. Watch any video of their 2012 Australian Open final and you'll hear why.

I agree with Ivanovic being the most glamorous woman in tennis. But her looks have outweighed her on-court achievements in recent times. Look at her past few years and you'll see where this is coming from.

Fair prediction with the AFL and NRL. More to come later. Episode terminated for tonight. MasterMind5991 (talk) 12:14, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

World's Strictest Parents Edit

Teens who are mothers/fathers is an epic failure in our society today. This should not be happening, as you said. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:44, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't watch MTV. Whenever I watch any music channels on Foxtel (I don't have Foxtel either) anywhere I always watch [V] or [V]2.

The more teen mothers there are, the worse the world will get as far as society is concerned. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:50, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

My parents raise me well. I'm 22, and both my parents are at least 60. Figure out the maths and you'll discover that they were just under 40 when I was born. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:55, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Parents are older and as they say, you must respect your elders. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:01, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

In all honesty, I think teen parents are immature. For the most part, they will have very likely been drop-outs from school.

By the way, where is the first WWTBAM episode that I hosted on Monday night? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:06, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

In fact, double dip is available after Question 10 (though in the US version, it is available all game round) on our version.

I will offer that ask-three audience lifeline, but only if you agree to:

  • lose the guaranteed $32,000 barrier, AND
  • lose the traditional ask-the-audience lifeline.

I will make those offers at the start of each episode, which will start sometime after Monday nights at 8:30pm (the same way the original Aussie Millionaire ran).

Check out the US timed clock version of Millionaire, it's cool. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:19, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

That, and I shall restructure the money tree, as follows:

  • $5,000,000 (bonus question if you can answer the first fifteen without using a single lifeline!)
  • $1,000,000
  • $500,000
  • $250,000
  • $100,000
  • $50,000
  • $25,000 (second safe haven unless ask-three audience lifeline is activated)
  • $15,000
  • $12,500
  • $10,000
  • $7,500
  • $5,000 (first safe haven)
  • $3,000
  • $2,500
  • $1,000
  • $500

The money tree is based on the US version. Did you like that version? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:32, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Wow. That is based off Super Millionaire, which I will host every first Monday of each month. Harder questions, such that a standard $25,000 question could be the first one! MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:42, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Good idea. Every Monday episode, except for the first of each month, will use the B Money Tree. The first Monday of each month will use the C Money Tree, classics which will take place once the NRL/AFL seasons have finished, will use the A Money Tree.

Episodes will NOT take place on the following dates:

  • Monday 26 May and 2 June due to Roland Garros
  • Monday 23 and 30 June due to Wimbledon, which I will cover
  • Monday 22 September due to the Brownlow Medal

MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:50, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I agree with that, but I think it'll be better if we activate Double Dip after Question 10 (second safe haven), it makes sense.

End of the episode, need to do an assignment. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:56, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Who Wants to Be a Super Millionaire? Edit

Good evening. As this is the first Monday of the month, "Who Wants to Be a Super Millionaire?" will take place tonight, not before 9:00pm.

Before the episode starts, please archive the previous episode as well as the two Q&A's, so that this page does not balloon out. MasterMind5991 (talk) 08:38, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Tonight's WWTBASM episode, if not completed tonight, cannot be completed on Tuesday night due to a huge commitment on MasterMind5991's part. In that case, the episode would continue on Wednesday.

Question One Edit

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Correct. It couldn't possibly be D.

Question TwoEdit

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:46, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Correct! Question Three now.

Question ThreeEdit

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

That was an easy one. Again, it couldn't possibly be D.

Question FourEdit

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:57, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Without a doubt, correct. Now to the last question which is the last chance you can leave with nothing.

Question FiveEdit

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Do not get this question wrong like Chase Sampson did! MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:05, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

You avoided the same fate as Sampson and now you are guaranteed $5,000. The next question will net $10,000 if you can get it right.

Question SixEdit

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He also played for Fremantle, but he did play for Collingwood as well.

Question SevenEdit

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:19, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


Question EightEdit

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Must I remind you, all the lifelines are available. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:23, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

That guess is incorrect. Please give me your second answer. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:28, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes, you got there. The Western Bulldogs defeated Essendon in Round 21 of the 2000 season proper. Essendon eventually won the premiership and the pre-season premiership and were the last team to do so until Geelong in 2009.

Question NineEdit

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Again, use lifelines if you must. Double dip is gone. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:35, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Took you a while but we got there! Now, this next question is for a guaranteed $100,000.

Question TenEdit

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:48, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

I am sorry, you are wrong. The correct answer was B: $135,000. $10,000 was spent on a mystery envelope, which had $10,000 in it.

You leave with only $5,000. Better luck next time. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:55, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Time III Edit

Sorry for the late start to tonight's episode, had some university assignments.

Question OneEdit

If there was a real SNTelevision and this aired on it would what you say and how you say it change?

Hmm... I would say a lot of good things, and this program should be done in a similar format to that of Rove Live (if you remember that show which ended in 2009).

Question TwoEdit

Rank the following leagues from your favourite to your least favourite: NHL, NFL, NBA, MLB, T20 Big-Bash, AFL, NRL, SupeRugby, A-League:

  • AFL
  • NRL
  • A-League
  • Twenty20 Big Bash
  • SupeRugby
  • NBA
  • NFL
  • NHL
  • MLB

Now, I will ask you the questions:

1. What do you think should be done to further prevent people committing suicide due to depression?

2. At what age do you think should be the legal age to marry?

P.S. After tonight, no episodes until this Monday night's WWTBAM due to the NRL being on Thursday and Friday night, plus as usual no episodes on weekends until the end of the AFL/NRL season. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:41, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Five Edit

What are your views on the video referree system and should it be bought to Soccer?

Very useful, it is very good in determining whether (in AFL) it was a goal or whether it was touched or hit the post, or (in NRL) whether the ball was grounded or whether there were any knock-ons.

It should be brought to soccer, as the only way to score a goal is to get it into the back of the net. However, they may want to check whether it was offside, or whether it may have touched someone else's hand on the way to the back of the net. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:05, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Six Edit

How much do you know about Charlotte Dawson? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Question SevenEdit

He is probably one of Australia's most successful sports administrators, probably second behind Andrew Demetriou. He however had to deal with salary cap breaches involving the Bulldogs and Melbourne Storm, and was instrumental in getting a team set up on the Gold Coast. The game has changed a lot under him since he took control in 2002 and resigned in 2012.

Speaking of Demetriou, I would like to know your thoughts on him; that will be question eight. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:22, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Question NineEdit


  • Friday night football for the Gold Coast Suns, and more Friday night matches in Geelong (speaking of which - there will be a Friday night match in Geelong between the Cats and Kangaroos this season, in May).
  • More female personalities on Channel Seven's AFL coverage. Even if this means getting Johanna Griggs (the face of the Australian Open) on Saturday night for example, so be it.
  • At least two matches on the MCG in any given round.


  • Some Melbourne Storm matches to be played at Etihad Stadium (like the Sydney Swans take some games to ANZ Stadium).
  • Bring back the Sunday afternoon Grand Final (3:00pm kick-off).
  • Regular matches to be played at Allianz and ANZ Stadium like the AFL has regular matches at the MCG and Etihad.
  • Scheduling of some matches.

Final Question for tonightEdit

Who are your favourite AFL commentators, and do you have Foxtel? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:34, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Tonight on SNTelevision Edit

Tonight's schedule:

Not before 8:30pm:

  • Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?

Followed by

  • Talking Footy

MasterMind5991 (talk) 04:08, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Talking Footy Episode I Edit

Good evening and welcome to the first edition of Talking Footy for season 2014.

First we start off by discussing Fremantle's 70-point thrashing of Collingwood on Friday night. It was a superb performance from Fremantle and you get the feeling that they can go one better this year? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:20, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Ross Lyon is so far the best AFL coach to have never won a premiership. Perhaps this year will finally be his year, and if the Dockers do triumph, it would be an appropriate way to cap off their 20th season in the AFL, having entered in 1995.

Just how terrible were Collingwood on Friday night? They could be bound to miss the finals this year I feel. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:23, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Collingwood haven't missed the finals since 2005; they currently have the longest finals streak of any team. Sydney have, however, been the most consistent side of the last two decades as far as finals are concerned, 15 finals series in the last 18 years.

Speaking of the Swans, who saw their shock loss to GWS coming on Saturday night? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:28, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. The Bombers' supplements scandal was one of the biggest sports stories of 2013, but it will remain to be seen how the club handles a season without Hird in 2014.

The NRL's Sharks are having it tough - they have lost their two NRL matches so far this season and are now last on the ladder. Adding salt to the wound - they play the Dragons on Saturday night, and guess where they are - ON TOP OF THE LADDER! MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:43, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Tonight on SNTelevision 18/3/2014 Edit

Tonight's schedule starting not before 8:00pm.

Let's begin. My first two questions are:

  • Do you think the Melbourne Storm will finish in the top four this season?
  • What television channel do you like watching the most, and why?

Your turn to ask a question. MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:10, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

I don't go to church, but occasionally I do go to temple to commemorate the Chinese New Year. I believe in Saving the Children and giving the poor better lives to live,among many others. MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:18, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

My next question is: Do you think weekend detentions should be introduced into Victorian schools? MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:19, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

It's too difficult to predict final ladders, but here are my predicted final ladders for both the AFL and NRL which I compiled shortly after the Australian Open concluded.

NRL: 1. Roosters 2. Rabbitohs 3. Sea Eagles 4. Storm 5. Broncos 6. Knights 7. Dragons 8. Raiders 9. Sharks 10. Cowboys 11. Titans 12. Panthers 13. Bulldogs 14. Tigers 15. Warriors 16. Eels.

AFL: 1. Hawthorn 2. Sydney 3. Fremantle 4. Geelong Cats 5. Essendon 6. Carlton 7. Port Adelaide 8. Collingwood 9. Richmond 10. North Melbourne 11. Adelaide 12. West Coast Eagles 13. Brisbane Lions 14. Gold Coast Suns 15. Western Bulldogs 16. GWS Giants 17. Melbourne 18. St Kilda.

I shall now ask you the question of what YOUR projected final ladders will be. MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:30, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Apple Inc. is the best technology company out there today. I've been using Apple products ever since I can remember, iPod nano between December 2006 and December 2009, iPod touch between December 2009 and January 2012, iPhone 3GS between January 2012 and September 2013, and the iPhone 5 ever since.

I really regret not getting a Mac but I do have a virtual machine on my Dell laptop.

Next question: Do you think the AFL should introduce cheer-leaders for each team? MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:50, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Hmm... there are a few:

  • Hawthorn vs St Kilda, Round 8, 2007 - a very poor match played in perfect conditions, which earned the wrath of then-Essendon coach Kevin Sheedy (from memory, only five goals were kicked in the first three quarters).
  • St Kilda vs Sydney, Round 10 2005 - while St Kilda were brilliant, Sydney were very poor, kicking just eight goals. This was to be the turning point in their season, as they would eventually go on to win the flag; this was also the case in 2012 when they went undefeated for about ten weeks after losing to St Kilda on the last Saturday of May in 2012.

That's all I can think of. Next question is the same that you asked me, except this time in the NRL. MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:59, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes, because it would take us another eleven years to return to the Grand Final, but at least we did get a 32-8 win over the Roosters after trailing at half-time.

But at the same time, no, because I didn't know a lot about rugby league or any sport at the time.

Final question: Apart from WWTBAM, what quiz show would you like to see return in the future? MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:07, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

And that concludes QandA for tonight. Join us back here in one hour for Talking Footy: Part II where we will review the Suns' win over the Tigers and the Power's impressive comeback against the Blues.

In the meantime, this episode and two or three WWTBAM episodes need to be archived, to free up some space. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:16, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Talking Footy Episode II Edit

Saturday night saw the Gold Coast Suns continue their dominance of Richmond, winning by 18 points. Why do you think the Suns play well against the Tigers? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:16, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Parramatta - same old result, they will probably finish in the bottom four if they don't take the wooden spoon again.

Melbourne - the reverse. Top four if they don't win the minor premiership. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:38, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Why are the Eels doing so terribly - it's because of the administration and their incompetence. Also, their coaches are second rate (think Stephen Kearney).

Melbourne should not get their premierships back - it's now a thing of the past (almost four years now). MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:49, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Short episode tonight Edit

Tonight's show will finish at 9:00pm due to MasterMind5991 having a uni assignment that is due tomorrow.

1. Will Wests Tigers relocate?

Answer: No. They're fine where they are now.

Who is not going to make the finals?

Answer: NRL: Definitely the Sharks and Eels. AFL: The two expansion sides, Melbourne, the Western Bulldogs and Richmond all won't make the finals, for sure.

MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:39, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

NRL: Parramatta. AFL: Melbourne. For reasons we should all know. MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:46, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

WWTBAM Episode 24/3/2014 Edit

Tonight's WWTBAM will take place not before 8:30pm, followed by Talking Footy. MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:14, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Question One Edit

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:31, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Two Edit

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:46, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Three Edit

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Question Four Edit

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:57, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Five Edit

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:03, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

The highest value printable on a bank note by way of Australian dollar. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:12, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

You didn't need to double dip because that was the correct answer and you're guaranteed $1,000, matching last week's performance.

Question Six Edit

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:15, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Seven Edit

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:19, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Eight Edit

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:29, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

I am sorry, that was the wrong answer and as a result, your game is over. The correct answer was the Sydney Swans.

Join us later at 10:15pm as we Talk Footy. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:34, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Talking Footy 24/3/2014 Edit

Good evening and welcome to Talking Footy for this Monday, the 24th of March, 2014.

We kick off by discussing St Kilda's round one victory over Melbourne, we are deliberately avoiding any discussion of North Melbourne's loss to Essendon because I know how TheGRVOfLightning feels over the Roos' dismal performance.

Melbourne had their chances but they were absolutely wasteful in front of goal, had they been able to kick straight the Demons would have won in round one for the first time since 2005. Your thoughts on the match, please. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:23, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

North were just terrible, you seem to know a lot about them even though you were born the year after they won their most recent premiership in 1999 (how unlucky). If they keep playing at this rate then there's no way they're going to make the finals.

Essendon's pressure was unrelenting, and it was a good performance under duress given the events surrounding James Hird.

If Hird does not return upon the expiration of his suspension in August, then "Bomber" could be in for the long term. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:34, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

It was a good performance for St Kilda and it was their more recent success that counted, Nick Riewoldt leading with three goals. Melbourne were obviously much improved but it will take time and they will start to win matches again, don't you think? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:39, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

No way, Melbourne will not fold or relocate. Paul Roos was hired for a reason - to get the players' confidence back up again after the events of the last seven years which has seen two untried coaches get sacked and a club legend pass away.

Roos knows what it is like to achieve success - he coached the Swans to their first premiership in 72 years almost a decade ago and it's that success that has been carried on into the John Longmire era. 17 points was only the margin so Melbourne fans shouldn't be all too disappointed, though straight kicking is what MUST be rectified. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:46, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Now to West Coast's impressive win over the Bulldogs and it's only round one but the Eagles are looking good? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:50, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Remember, it's only Round 1 and anything can happen.

Essendon play Hawthorn this Friday night. Do you think the Bombers can cause an upset victory like they did in Round 7, 2009? I have a sense of feeling that it could happen. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:55, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

That wraps up tonight's episode. Join us again on Tuesday and Wednesday before we go off-air from Thursday.

NOTICE IN ADVANCE: SNTelevision will go off-air for a period of six weeks between Sunday, May 25 and Monday, July 7 due to the French Open, Wimbledon and State of Origin. MasterMind5991 (talk) 12:07, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

WWTBAM 31/3/2014 Edit

After failing to reach the $1 million question for the last few weeks, tonight (and every last Monday of each month) we will play WWTBAM using the Hot Seat format. So if you answer a question incorrectly, the top prize will be decreased, however we will still use the old US money tree this evening.

Question One Edit

TOP PRIZE: $1,000,000

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:31, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Two Edit

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:40, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Three Edit

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:01, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Incorrect. The correct answer was "Knights". If I had not invoked the Hot Seat rule your game would be over now.

What happens here - the top prize will be decreased and you will stay on Question Three until you get it right.

NEW TOP PRIZE - $500,000

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:17, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Four Edit

TOP PRIZE - $500,000

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:25, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Five Edit

TOP PRIZE - $500,000

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:37, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Six Edit

TOP PRIZE - $500,000

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:47, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Incorrect! The correct answer was Dustin Fletcher, who played in Essendon's 1993 premiership winning team.

NEW TOP PRIZE - $250,000

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Seven Edit

TOP PRIZE: $250,000

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:57, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Eight Edit

TOP PRIZE: $250,000

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:04, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay. You are restricted to the search terms "smooth criminal". MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:09, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Question Nine Edit

TOP PRIZE: $250,000

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:19, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

The answer was Gareth Gates.

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:28, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations, you leave with $12,500. The correct answer by the way was Andrew Strauss.

No Talking Footy tonight as it's getting too late, will be held tomorrow. Join us next Monday night for Who Wants to Be a Super Millionaire? as it is the first Monday of April. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:35, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Talking Footy Episode 8/4/2014 Edit

I bumped into Sam as I left the ground, and I had a photo taken with him (for privacy reasons, I am not permitted to show you the photo).

Because I was in a rush to leave the ground as it was raining, I only asked him about the $70K he spent at the silent auction. From memory he said it was great but he was gutted to have fallen at the final hurdle. I forgot to ask him about Aisha!

Anyway I went to the post-match function and got an old Giants shirt that I had brought along signed by most of the players that did not play in the match. I also saw Leon Cameron and congratulated him on the win.

I am a GWS member and I have access to all eight of their games in Sydney (not including the second Sydney Derby), though I plan on not going to the Adelaide game in July.

I am half St Kilda and half GWS. I believe GWS can beat the Western Bulldogs this weekend (I won't go to that game because it's in Canberra) and maybe even Adelaide the week after.

WWTBASM could be held tomorrow night.

MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:59, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Was that after the game against Port Adelaide? And do you think the Roos can beat Sydney on Sunday? They haven't done that since 2007, almost seven years.

Almost everyone likes to call the umpires "white maggots" (after the original white uniform they used to wear many years ago). MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:12, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Tonight's episode will focus on the crisis at Carlton.

Absolutely, they were totally inept against Essendon, applied no pressure whatsoever and were never even in the contest. What had been billed as a very big match descended into one of disappointment.

There is every chance that Mick Malthouse will not see out his time at Carlton. I think it's about time Brett Ratten was brought back. Imagine sacking a coach only to rehire him. It's possible. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:24, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

In fact, Carlton endured its worst ever period between 2002 and 2008; during this period, the salary cap breaches hit hard and they were stripped of early round draft picks and were banned from the pre-season draft (December). You need to see their results during this period and just see how bad they were at the time.

Obviously Carlton have moved on from that now, but in my opinion I think sacking Brett Ratten was a step backward. Carlton were ravaged by injuries in 2012 - and yes it did impact on the team's performance. A team could have a poor season caused by injuries only to have a better season the year after. Look at West Coast in 2010 - they were ravaged by injuries that year, but only twelve months after winning the wooden spoon they got to within a match of the Grand Final.

Who knows what could happen.... MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:31, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Melbourne put up a good effort against GWS on Sunday. I was at that game hoping the Giants would win, but it wasn't easy and I moaned every Melbourne possession from a GWS turnover. The Dees had a clear game plan and I could even see Paul Roos from where I was sitting. He has got a tough task ahead of him, that's for sure. Imagine if that was John Longmire.... MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:40, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

After you win a premiership you quickly realise that other teams will be out to get you. That was the case with Sydney in 2013 (as defending premiers from 2012). They had a good run in the first half of the season but then ultimately injuries got the better of them and Fremantle swamped them in the preliminary final.

Hawthorn (2008-2009) are the last defending premier to fail to reach the finals the following year.

Sydney started terribly this year because:

  • They couldn't match it against GWS who were overdue for a win in the Sydney Derby, and
  • Sydney still cannot crack the Collingwood code at ANZ Stadium (2012 preliminary final and Round 9 2013 at the MCG aside).

But they did have a win over an under-siege Adelaide.

MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:50, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

GWS - they will improve this season. They are in their third season and have not yet dropped out of the top eight! Third year should be the year for improvement, the Suns proved that last year.

STK - got no idea. Who knows what could happen to them this year. Wooden spoon favourites at the start of the year, they are starting to become a force under Alan Richardson and are playing with confidence not seen under Scott Watters.

MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:01, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Melbourne. They've sacked two coaches in the last three years but not even Paul Roos (a premiership winning coach with Sydney in 2005) is the short-term solution to the woes that they've suffered since 2006. He's doing a reasonable job in my opinion, but it's just that the Dees have been struck by injuries to Jesse Hogan and Chris Dawes, and Mitch Clark today announced his retirement.

As for the best - there's no going past Hawthorn. Simply unstoppable at the moment. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:09, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

In fact, seeing we have discussed a lot already, time to end the episode. Join us tomorrow night for WWTBASM. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:16, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Tonight's episode 9/4/2014 Edit

If you could have anything in a house, What would you put in it?

The same as what you said.

If you could have 3 wishes what would those wishes be?

1. That all the violence in the world would end 2. That gender equality will remain and that neither gender is discriminated against. 3. That there will be a new AFL premier this year apart from Hawthorn.

MasterMind5991 (talk) 07:25, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

A perfect relationship:

  • Should last at least twelve months
  • Should not be tainted
  • Both people should enjoy at least five things in common and should share at least two things in common (nationality being one of them).
  • Both people should live close to each other and see each other regularly.

Sorry, must end Question Night early due to dinner, but will be back at around 8:30pm for WWTBASM. MasterMind5991 (talk) 07:36, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Good evening. As this is the first episode of the month, "Who Wants to Be a Super Millionaire?" will take place tonight.

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:31, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Yeah. I was meant to say "What is the capital city of France?".

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:12, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

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MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:21, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

The siren has blown, and we will continue WWTBASM straight after the two-week Easter break (starting next week). This episode will resume on 28/4/2014.

Now it's time for Talking Footy: The NRL Edition!

Do you think this year will be the end of the Melbourne Storm? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:30, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

They have been at the top for so long and after crashing out of the finals in straight sets last year people will think that the Storm will finally get knocked off their perch.

And just to let you know, the NRL does not have a draft, players come in through the junior ranks in this code.

Who do you think is the best coach in the NRL today, apart from Craig Bellamy? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:41, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

It was a promising start to the season, three wins to start the season and first after round four until the Rabbitohs got us last week. Now we have to face you guys on Monday night. The Dragons have not won in Melbourne since 1999 and the drought could continue.

If the Dragons lose this match then it could put us a bit back as far as the season is concerned. We cannot afford to miss the finals for yet another year under the coaching of Steve Price. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:46, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Discussion 15/4/2014 Edit

Before I start, this will be the schedule effective Monday 28/4/2014:


  • From 6:00pm: Post-match discussion on Twitter


  • 8:30pm: Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?
  • 10:15pm: Talking Footy


  • 8:30pm: Talking Footy: AFL Edition


  • 8:30pm: Talking Footy: NRL Edition





  • At full-time of the Friday night AFL match (or NRL matches, as will be the case this Friday only): Post-match discussion on Twitter


  • At full-time of the Saturday arvo/night match: Post-match discussion on Twitter

Discussion with MasterMind5991 will be off-air between 25 May and 8 June and then 23 June to 6 July inclusive due to the French Open and Wimbledon respectively.


Please let me know if you object to the schedule above. Note that this is effective as of Monday 28 April 2014.

Now onto tonight's episode. Teen parents are starting to become a worry for me. From what I know, males must be over 18 and females over 16 for legal sexual intercourse. That's what a friend of mine told me.

When someone is born from teen parents, it could represent the start of a rebellious life for the child. That's what I think. They're not going to do well in the modern day society, and the next thing you know, someone's grandparents could be as young as 30. MasterMind5991 (talk) 09:44, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

I'd say that the minimum age to have your first child is 25. Some may have children between 35 and 40, you never know.

Anyway, from 8:30pm we will switch to Talking Footy as there are some issues that must be discussed. Sorry for the late reply, my computer had crashed. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:20, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I want to discuss that final try which won you guys the game 24 hours ago.

A lot of people are still discussing whether the try should have been awarded or not. Here's what happened:

  • The ball was played AS THE SIREN WENT. When the siren goes and the player has not played the ball yet, or has already been tackled, play must stop.
  • After that play the ball, the Storm kept the ball alive and that winger went down and scored in the corner. That won the game for the Storm and kept the Dragons winless in Melbourne since 1999.
  • As Geoff Toovey would say, "There's got to be an investigation into this!".
  • Admittedly the Dragons were the better team on the night. Even Storm captain Cameron Smith said the Storm weren't at their best.

I'd like to hear your thoughts. MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:50, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

I must say that it was a good try, but the fact that it was scored after the final siren means that it should never have been awarded in the first place. So technically the Dragons must have the win.

There was another case between the Dragons and Bulldogs in 2009 when Jamal Idris had a try denied with 30 seconds remaining which would have won the Bulldogs the match (no video footage of the match exists). Idris had made a clear line break but Greg Eastwood was ruled to have obstructed Jamie Soward when it was clear that he didn't.

When the "no try" ruling came up a lot of the Bulldogs fans who had filtered Kogarah Oval were left disgusted that such a legitimate try would be awarded. Though there is no video footage around of the try, what are your thoughts? MasterMind5991 (talk) 10:56, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Anyway, if you search "idris no try vs dragons" on Google then you'll know where that is coming from.

Can you recall the day when Melbourne were stripped of their two premierships, three minor premierships and all competition points due to salary cap breaches? Next Tuesday marks four years to the day since that announcement by David Gallop. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:08, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Anyway, the Storm, since that announcement, have won back at least one of each trophy they were stripped of (minor premiership in 2011, premiership 2012 and World Club Challenge in 2013).

I would think that the Storm have well and truly moved on from that terrible day in history.

Have you ever met any Melbourne Storm players in person? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:12, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Who is/are your favourite Storm player(s)? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:15, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Without them the Storm are nothing. Remembering they had to get rid of Inglis after the salary cap breach revelations. Do you think the Storm would be a better side had Inglis stayed at the club? As it stands, Inglis is NOT a premiership player after all.

For the Storm players who played in the annulled 2007 and 2009 premierships, the only memory that they will have is the feeling that they experienced, and the premiership rings, which they still say "haven't lost their shine". MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:21, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

The Big Three are all over the age of 30. Billy Slater and Cameron Smith will both turn 31 on June 18 (they both have the same birthday as each other). Cooper Cronk will turn 31 in December. All three still have at least another two-to-three years left in them.

When they do leave, it'll be the end of an era at the Storm. However, players will come from the junior system and be groomed to eventually replace them long-term. There was Gareth Widdop, but he left at the end of last year to join the Dragons. But they at least have Ben Roberts, who arrived after previously playing with Parramatta and the Bulldogs. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:27, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

No. Having a team in Melbourne is good for the code, just like having teams in New South Wales and Queensland is good for the AFL.

Now we know the story about the Melbourne Storm salary cap breach four years ago. Imagine if the Sydney Swans were in this position. What do you think would have happened to them? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:31, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

The AFL once had to deal with a massive salary cap breach involving Carlton in 2002 (you may be too young to even remember this). What happened - the Blues were stripped of first and second round draft picks for two years, and banned from participating in the December pre-season draft - preventing them from rebuilding their playing list in the short term. However, there were two players who came out of the 2002 and 2003 drafts that would later excel for the Blues - Kade Simpson and Andrew Walker, respectively.

In my opinion, if this had happened to the Sydney Swans:

  • their 2012 premiership would be stripped, and rendered null rather than it be awarded to Hawthorn.
  • they would be fined at least $1,000,000, and dealt the same punishment that Carlton endured.
  • they would finish a season with the wooden spoon (no team has EVER been sentenced to finish a season last in the AFL due to salary cap breaches, though when Carlton were exposed in 2002, the year they won the wooden spoon for the first time in club history, that occurred at the end of the season and just 24 hours before the draft was to take place).

Still, the Swans have a strong enough list but Adam Goodes seems to be on his final legs, he is now on the longest injury break of his career and the Swans desperately need him back.

That concludes Talking Footy for tonight, we will carry on tomorrow before we go off air on Thursday for the match between the Lions and Richmond. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:40, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Talking Footy 16/4/2014 Edit

What did you make of the video footage that you managed to dig up? Was it a try or not? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:05, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Thing is this: Jamie Soward conned the video referee into thinking he was bumped into that Bulldogs player. He actually backed into him and made it look genuine that he was obstructed.

That would have been a try any other day of the week. The referees admitted that they got it wrong but they could not reverse the result. Like they couldn't on Monday night.

What is your opinion on the refereeing standards in the NRL? It's just atrocious and incompetent.

  • Last year the Sharks were awarded a seventh tackle try against the Cowboys in an elimination final which they went on to win.
  • In round five Manly were awarded a try right on half-time when it was revealed that it was scored after the siren.
  • And then there was Monday night.

MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:12, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

The AFL had their own version of "Sirengate" way back in 2006 (St Kilda vs Fremantle). YouTube footage of the aftermath still exists.

Now this is the NRL's version involving the Storm and Dragons. The debate continues and the Dragons are still raging that they should be given the two premiership points, but their plea has fallen on deaf ears. As it turns out, they have now not won in Melbourne since 1999.

In Fremantle's case, they successfully argued that Steven Baker (St Kilda) scored in the play that took place after the final siren, the result was that the timekeepers failed to do their job and sound the siren longer. Though Fremantle were given the victory, they still have never sung the team song at Aurora Stadium! MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:25, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

If it is a draw then neither club song will be played at the end.

Speaking of club songs, North Melbourne once proposed the idea that the away team's song not be played before the start of matches, in order to give the visitors somewhat of a hostile reception. What are your thoughts on that? MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:35, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

It's not a good idea. That would be totally disrespecting the away side, even if it was two Melbourne sides going against each other. It'd be split between, suppose, Collingwood and Essendon.

I went to the GWS vs Melbourne match ten days ago and even though Melbourne were coming last, the crowd still welcomed the Dees onto the field. Nothing else needs to be said because the Giants eventually beat the Dees.

Melbourne are now the first (and so far only) club to lose to both GWS and Gold Coast twice each. Only Richmond and GWS have more losses against the Suns. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:49, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

I totally disagree with you, but you are entitled to your opinion. Carlton is historically one of the most successful clubs in the AFL, they are tied with Essendon on 16 flags but they have been, for the most part, the most unsuccessful side since 2000, though salary cap breaches caused their on-field demise.

0-4 to start the season for the first time in a quarter of a century. I think Mick Malthouse will not survive out the season. Sacking Brett Ratten only sent the club backwards I feel. MasterMind5991 (talk) 11:55, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Had Port Adelaide held on then North would have entered the eight for the first time in the season in the final round. So effectively that last match between North Melbourne and Collingwood was a dead rubber.

North have started this season 3-1 so it's fair to say that they'll be fired up after the series of heartbreaking losses last year. MasterMind5991 (talk) 12:02, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Adelaide fans will hate St Kilda for what happened in the final round in 2008. The Saints' 108-point win over an injury-hit Essendon saw them snatch fourth spot (and the double chance) from the Crows - the Crows subsequently lost an elimination final against Collingwood the following week and were promptly terminated from the finals series. Note that I like to use the term "termination" rather than "elimination" for such happenings from now. MasterMind5991 (talk) 12:08, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

In reality TV shows such as "The X Factor" I like to use the term "terminated" - it's the same concept. Anyway, discussion closed for tonight, see you on Twitter tomorrow for the post-match discussion of the Brisbane Lions vs Richmond. MasterMind5991 (talk) 12:12, 16 April 2014 (UTC)